Over the last week, I have seen several threads discussing coaching, player rankings, and recruiting and the way they come together. I decided to write this in reaction to a tweet that said:
I don’t get why players suited to play an uptempo style of ball continue to go to UCLA and USC.
As a UCLA alumni, I am biased. However, I think this comment is endemic of a mentality that sees college basketball simply as a showcase for the NBA. I don’t think Russell Westbrook is complaining that UCLA held him back.
On another site, someone compared Ben Howland and Coach K:
Howland needs to adjust to his personnel. His offense is the reason they’ve been losing so many games! Look at Coach K at Duke. No post play, so he spreads it out and wins with spacing/outside shooting. If Coach K had the UCLA personnel (especially the guards) and ran that system, you have a Pac-10 champ and a 2-3 seed. Not only that, you wouldn’t have these Jrue Holiday overrated threads.
Offense: UCLA finished the regular season #1 in field goal percentage shooting and was in the top 5 in the nation in offensive efficiency all season.
Talent: Compare the rosters. Duke has had more talent enter UCLA for the past five seasons, yet UCLA has three Final Fours, while Duke has zero. The comment mentioned UCLA’s talent: Malcolm Lee and Jrue Holiday were McDonald’s All-Americans, while Duke has Kyle Singler, Gerald Henderson, Greg Paulus, Jon Scheyer, Elliott Williams and Lance Thomas.
Now, the poster said that UCLA’s guard are more talented than Duke’s. Duke has four guards who entered Duke as All-Americans to UCLA’s one, plus Duke has Nolan Smith who was a Parade All-American and Martynas Pocius, a national team player from Lithuania. Besides Holiday, Darren Collison was lightly recruited out of Etiwanda High School; Michael Roll turned down U.C. Santa Barbara to go to UCLA; Josh Shipp was the third best UCLA guard in his recruiting class (Jordan Farmar and Arron Afflalo); and Jerime Anderson was highly recruited in high school, but Carolina’s Larry Drew made the McDonald’s AA Game over him.
How do you argue that UCLA’s guards entered as more highly regarded players? That leads to two other arguments:
- UCLA’s players develop; and
- Player rankings are inherently flawed.
First, if UCLA’s players develop, doesn’t that answer the first question? Players choose UCLA because they improve and are ready to play in the NBA when they leave. Just look at Russell Westbrook and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. I believe both were three-star players at best in high school, and both are contributing NBA players as rookies. How many other rookies who are contributing for their teams this season were three-star players? Golden State’s Anthony Morrow, maybe. Anyone else?
This is from a Milwaukee Bucks post after the win against Boston:
“Ray just struggled all night. Moute did a hell of a job on Ray. I think that’s the best defensive job in the two years I’ve been here, on one guy. They didn’t do anything special. They just put Moute and Bell on him.
“He (Mbah a Moute) comes from a great program (UCLA) that plays defense in college. We played them early in the year, and I remember making the comment, ‘Man, that kid plays defense far beyond his age.’
“I didn’t know he was going to be this good, but he’s good.”
That is why kids go to UCLA regardless of the style points that they may lose by foregoing Carolina, Arizona or Gonzaga. People do not realize, however, that when NBA scouts evaluate players, they wonder how much of a player’s success at Carolina is attributable to the system. Will Lawson be as effective in the NBA when he has to slow down and play a half-court game? Can he defend? How will Daye transition to the physicality of the NBA? Sure, they showcased their skills, but scouts still have questions. They know what they will get from UCLA players: good skills, competitive and great defenders who are able to play from Day 1.
That’s why players choose USC or UCLA. Not to mention the fact that UCLA has been to three Final Fours in a row. Why wouldn’t you choose UCLA? You get a chance to win and you’re prepared for the NBA. Look at Singler versus Love: if Singler went to UCLA, he probably would have helped UCLA win a championship and he would be in position to go to the NBA if he wants, whereas now the commentators are labeling him a “great college player” (personally, I like him at any level).
As for player rankings, they are inherently flawed (sorry if i move to girls’ examples, as I responded to a post on a girls’ basketball forum). Rankings are pure conjecture and opinion because nobody tracks the accuracy over time and because there are so many variables that affect the talent development process. Was a girl over-rated or did she pick a school where she did not fit the system very well? Was a girl underrated or did she develop in college? Ashley Walker is an example. People cite Walker as someone who developed greatly during college, but Caren Horstmeyer, the coach who signed her, thought she was the best recruit that she signed, better than McDonald’s All-Americans AGL and Hampton. As it has played out in college, she was right. The “experts” were wrong.
Walker developed in college, but not to the extent that some would have you believe. She was a great high school player who was overlooked and under-hyped. Was Elena Delle Donne over-rated or did emotional burnout cause her not to maximize her potential on the college level? How many other players does that affect? There are so many factors, and the “experts” know so little about the subject, so they base their rankings on comparisons of physical traits and game performance in 1-2 games without knowing very much about the important factors in a player’s overall development.
On a boys’ site this morning, someone listed about 20 of the area’s top rated players and asked who will make the biggest impact at the next level. How does anyone know? The people on the outside – the people doing the rankings, the people reacting to the rankings, the media, etc. – are not close enough to the situation to know. The player who will make the biggest impact is probably the player who picked a coach who believes in him, who has a growth mindset (see the newsletter this week), who has a tremendous work ethic, etc. Heck, maybe the player who will have the most impact is a 6′2 shooting guard who grows four inches over the summer and fills out.
There is so much that enters into the talent development process that most people fail to understand. These internal and psychological traits and skills affect development. To rank or evaluate players effectively, you have to know the character of the player and know his work ethic. After watching a player in a couple AAU games, you can guess about his character and his coachability and his effort, but you cannot make a definitive conclusion.
At the very top, the exceptional players are exceptional because they combine these positive traits with great understanding and athleticism. Watching Maya Moore, it was not hard to predict greatness. Watching O.J. Mayo, it was not hard to see his talent and potential.
However, once you dip beyond the top 15-25 players, there is great subjectivity and a player’s college performance depends on his relationship with the coach, his fit in the system, his work ethic, his physical maturation, etc.
That’s why rankings are just opinions and guesses to get people to traffic web sites and argue about their credibility and accuracy to increase site traffic and ultimately revenue through advertising or memberships.
They are what they are. In and of themselves, rankings are not bad for high school players. Only when people put so much faith in them and worry so heavily about them does their role become problematic. They are the opinions of the few, not a consensus of many experts. At the end of the day, opinions do not mean a thing. Performance counts.
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